Democracy – not for me?

In 2017, I was the candidate for Labour here on the Isle of Wight. One day I may share some anecdotes, but to be honest, John O’Farrell got there first, and he’s much funnier than me. Since the election, I’ve been the main spokesperson for the CLP, and since June last year, the Chair, trying to maintain our profile in the local media, and to keep the Tory council and Tory MP honest. Or at least as honest as Tories get. If Theresa May were to go for another walk and call an election, then I may well throw my hat into the ring to be considered as Labour candidate once more.

 
I may not be selected by the CLP though. They may choose someone else to try and topple the Tories.


The last two years have not been without difficulty. I’ve been the target of some fairly horrible abuse from some individuals on social media and email. Nothing which would make an actual MP bat an eyelid in terms of quantity, obviously, but when someone publicly calls you “a cancer”, your first reaction isn’t “oh well, at least it’s not as bad as what Jeremy Corbyn gets”. We’re all human. Except Jacob Rees-Mogg. Although there have been some threats, they’ve been relatively unthreatening threats, if that makes sense: I’ve not taken to checking under my car. Nonetheless, it’s fair to say I haven’t had this much anglo-saxon directed towards me since the last time I refereed a rugby league game.

 
Some of that abuse, and rather more non-abusive criticism, has come from local Labour Party members or supporters. It turns out that, in a church as broad as the Labour Party, sometimes people on the far side of either aisle aren’t so much singing out of time with each other, but are warbling different hymns altogether. Throw in intensely emotive issues like the anti-semitism storm last summer, or binary identity politics like Brexit, and trying to adopt a nuanced position can, rather than introducing the harmony you intended, instead quickly see you adding a third discordant tune to the two clashing songs already shattering the stained-glass windows, much to the irritation of both sides.

 
I’ve had criticism for being too dictatorial. I’ve had criticism for not directing people enough. I’ve been criticised by Remainers for being insufficiently enthusiastic about stopping Brexit, and by Lexiters for being too critical of Brexit. Some of the Labour Right in the CLP assume I must be an idiot because I voted for Corbyn. Some of the Left assume I’m a Blairite because, well to be honest, I haven’t quite cracked why for that one, but I’m sure they have their reasons. Some would oppose my selection because they would prefer a different person, even though they also like me. Some might support my selection just to stop a different person, even though they also dislike me. It is, as many have said, a funny old game.

 
Now the picture I painted above suggests a party riven with tiny factions. But actually that’s not remotely accurate. Or perhaps I should say that for much of the time, the various factions rub along well, united by more than they are divided. In 2017, I campaigned alongside Lexiters and Remainers who were both equally enthused by the manifesto. I count amongst my stronger personal supporters, local members from the Marxist Left and Blairite Right, and all points inbetween.

 
In my experience, CLP members from across the spectrum are quite capable of disagreeing about a range of issues without considering any of those issues to be a red line which prevents them from supporting whoever they think stands the best chance of getting a result for the Party as a whole. I count myself amongst those pragmatists: if Nye Bevan or Clem Attlee were reincarnated in Ryde and joined the local CLP, I’d vote against myself to get them selected.

 
Nearly all members hold it as an article of faith that the ultimate goal is to kick out the Tories, and to install a Labour government, and nearly all of us will swallow personal dislikes, policy disagreements and tone-deaf hymn-singing from the other side of the aisle, in order to elect any Labour MP who is working towards that goal. If that means supporting and campaigning for someone as candidate when you really wanted someone else, then so be it. I was aware in 2017 that some people would have much preferred a different candidate, but those same people still put in a shift to support me in that campaign, and some of them have even been won round to my dubious charm. Well, I like to tell myself that. Don’t disillusion me.

 

 

Some members will swallow political views they dislike, as long as the result is more likely to be a Labour government – for many on the left, that describes the entire period between 1997 and 2010. There are many current Labour MPs who are not particularly sympathetic to the politics of either the leadership or members, yet few have faced motions of no confidence, because their members will accept their lukewarm enthusiasm for socialist politics as long as they are seen as working hard to bring about a Labour government.

 

 

Some members will swallow opposition to the party leadership as long as that opposition comes from a political perspective with which they have sympathy, which explains why Jeremy Corbyn himself survived the Blair years. It’s also why plenty of MPs who have criticised the leadership’s stance on Brexit have gone unchallenged by members, because most members tend to have sympathy with more pro-Remain views.

 

 

Where members tend to draw the line, in my experience, is when a representative is seen as both politically unsympathetic and not helping to obtain a Labour government. If an MP ever crosses a line to be seen as actively helping to prevent a Labour government, then members will almost always move against them. If one looks at those Labour MPs who have faced motions of no confidence – and it is a relatively small number – one finds that it is inevitably the case that they not only have serious political differences with the leadership, but they are seen by members as making a Labour government less likely through their public provision of ammunition to the hostile media and the Tories.

 

 

That’s the explanation for why some members in some CLPs are tabling motions of no confidence in their MPs. But ultimately, whether you believe MPs such as Chris Leslie are damaging the party or not, is irrelevant.  Whatever the reasons, whatever the accuracy or otherwise of the motives of the CLP members, one thing is very clear to me: they have the right to choose whether I’m the person who represents them, as chair, as spokesperson or as candidate.

 

 

If they decide they don’t want me any more, and would prefer to select someone else, then obviously I’d be disappointed. I might even be hurt. I may think the decision unfair (you’d hope so, because if I thought it was fair, then why would I be standing in the first place?). But they do have that right. Because ultimately, they ARE the local Labour Party, and I’m not standing as an independent, but as a Labour candidate.

 
That seems to me to be an unarguable principle. Labour candidates can never be separate from the CLPs they represent. And if those CLP members choose candidates based on personal preference, political alignment, ancient Balkanesque blood feuds (this is the Isle of Wight – memories go back a long way here), or just because they don’t like the candidate’s dress sense (yes, I have taken flak for that), then that is their right. The moment we start telling them they can’t, or shouldn’t, exercise it any more, then we’re no longer a democratic party.

 
That principle, it seems to me, applies whether I’m an aspiring MP or an actual MP. It’s particularly important in our broken electoral system, which guarantees hundreds of MPs jobs for life in safe seats. If an MP doesn’t have to work to be re-elected in a constituency which weighs one party’s vote in tons and the other in grams, and they don’t have to work to be reselected by their CLP, then who are they actually accountable to? How do we get rid of any candidate or MP in a safe seat? To suggest that we can only kick them out if they are actually convicted of a crime seems to me to be setting the bar rather low in terms of our expectations of accountability.

 
Which is why I am so uncomfortable with seeing MPs attacking members for tabling votes of no confidence. It’s my CLP’s right to select their representative. They don’t owe me their loyalty no matter what I do. Rather, I owe them MY loyalty, because I am the beneficiary of their work and their votes in selecting me as candidate.

 
I’m even more uncomfortable with suggestions which I’ve seen from MPs that tabling such motions is “bullying”. It is not bullying to disagree with someone. It is not bullying to say “we don’t want you to be our representative any more”, as long as that is done in a clear and open process, and without personal abuse. Those who would support a different candidate at the next election are not bullying me, they’re exercising their democratic right. If I believed my own right to remain in position no matter what, trumped others’ right to remove me, then I’d have lost sight of what democracy is.

 
It’s also wrong, and deeply unfair, to see the conflation of any abuse which a candidate may have received from any quarter, with any attempt to deselect them or express a vote of no confidence. The fact that I’ve received some fairly unpleasant abuse from some members doesn’t negate the right of all members to choose someone else. Nearly all those CLP members who would vote for a different candidate here have never been abusive towards me. The idea that they should be criticised for exercising their right to choose someone else, because another member once abused me, is ridiculous. Even if members voted against me for their own reasons in a vote of no confidence put forward by an abuser, then that would still be their right, and it would not make them abusers themselves.

 
Those MPs who criticise CLP members because motions of no confidence, or reselection, are tabled or passed, are thus completely out of line. Ironically, in so doing, they make the case rather well for those who believe some MPs are contemptuous of their local party members, or even of the party membership as a whole. Little would make me more likely to vote FOR a motion of no confidence than if I were to have a candidate who criticised members for the act of exercising their right to call one – even if we sat on the same side of the church and sang the same hymn in perfect harmony. Democracy is my non-negotiable. I can put up with a lot, but I can’t put up with a candidate who believes they shouldn’t be accountable to the members who gave them their position.

 
It is an arrogant and contemptuous position for MPs or candidates to attack an entire CLP for simply having members who dare to suggest they might like to choose to a different representative. It is even worse when MPs accuse those CLPs of having malign motives, or of “bullying”. Even if some members did have malign motives, it would require a majority to pass a vote of no confidence. Do we really have MPs arguing that a majority of any CLP – hundreds or thousands of individuals – are motivated by malignancy?

 
The only correct response to a motion of no-confidence, or an attempt to deselect, is to politely contest it. If it happens to me, then I would set out why I believe I deserve to retain the confidence of local members. An even better approach would be to avoid having the vote of no confidence in the first place (or at least to be confident that such a vote would never get a majority), by treating as many local members as possible with the respect they deserve, and by representing their views effectively. MPs in particular benefit from the advantages of a high profile, paid staff, the deference which often accrues to any kind of authority or incumbency, access to the media, and experience of politics. If they can’t retain a majority of their own local party members willing to support them, then in what sense do they deserve to continue to represent those party members in elections?

 
To make a case that local members should not exercise their right to express their views is to demand an exemption from all accountability to the party. It is to state that the MP owes no loyalty or service to the members who selected them, campaigned for them and are represented by them. In which case, it is an argument not to be a Labour MP at all, but to be an independent. Which is fine, but don’t expect Labour members to support you – they would rather have a Labour MP, thanks.

 
I see all over social media this morning, Labour MPs taking to social media to condemn a CLP for the fact that some members have tabled a vote of no confidence. I have seen that motion conflated with abuse. I have seen it ascribed abhorrent and malign motives. I have seen multiple demands for solidarity with the MP in question (although not solidarity with the members of the CLP).  What that comes across as is a privileged parliamentary group demanding that members should shut up and accept what they’re given, without question, and with no expectation of accountability. If they don’t shut up and accept what they’re given, they will be deliberately labelled as abusers, racists and cranks in a hostile media by MPs whose voices are far louder than ordinary members. That’s so very wrong.

CLPs will contain many hundreds, or thousands, of members. Some will support a vote of no confidence. Some will oppose. Some will be indifferent. Some motives will be factional, some personal, some tactical and, yes, some malign. But whatever their reasons, no matter how much I may or may not agree or disagree with their motives, they have an absolute right to express those views. It is my responsibility – if I want to represent my CLP in any post, from bottle-washer to MP – to retain their confidence. If I don’t, or can’t, then democracy demands that I accept that decision and allow them to choose someone in whom they do have confidence.

 
The best defence against motions of no confidence is not to attack your members, or to complain about “bullying” or to demand an unchallenged job for life in which members serve your needs irrespective of your contempt for them. It is to retain the confidence of your members.

 

If you can’t do that – if I can’t do that – then we deserve to go.

26 thoughts on “Democracy – not for me?

    • This is the very essence of democracy, but in the situation with Labour MP’s and their CLP’s No Confidence votes, needs to be debated openly!

      These MP’s hold ideological agenda, that demands they actually stop Corbyn becoming PM?
      He’s stated ‘when’ he becomes PM, he’ll Recognise Palestine, this is anathema to these Zionist war hawks!

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      • As I’ve written in a different blog, I don’t particularly share a prioritised concern over the middle east. Or foreign policy anywhere.

        I do think that some other people with similarly no real interest in the middle east, but who are deeply hostile to the current leadership, have nevertheless picked up the stick of anti-Semitism accusations as something to beat their enemies with.

        Still, if I could offer one piece of advice to those fellow lefties who DO care passionately about the middle east, it would be to stop referring to Jewish MPs and party members as “Zionists”. Every time anyone does, they give ammunition to those who they disagree with. Doesn’t matter whether you think that’s fair or unfair, because that’s the reality.

        Nobody is listening to arguments about definitions. They’re just seeing left-wingers describing Jewish MPs as “Zionists”, with the implication that they have split loyalties, or are not truly British. I’ve never been comfortable with the word when applied to individuals, for that reason.

        Meanwhile, I’ll go back to musing on a possible conference motion banning the Labour Party from having a foreign policy relating to any country east of Greece or west of India.

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        • Funny. I am starting to think exactly the same as you, and that clarifies something – call the ideology zionist but not the person. That makes sense to me.

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        • But they’d love that, they have been hiding behind various factions for decades. In the 1930’s they hid within the Nazi’s, The Transfer Agreement explains this. After they ‘lost’, they hid behind the Jew, decrying anyone who asked questions as AS and in Europe they jailed them, I fear they where a bit nearer the truth in Europe, than we were in UK.
          Now they hide behind Islam and the Wahhabi Muslim. Just look around at who one can’t criticise? They are the ONLY people that ‘see’ AS, no one else does because it doesn’t exist to them!
          Have a good read of this piece, it explains how the Zionists helped Nazi’s break the World Embargo the Jewish people had on German goods.
          https://israelpalestinenews.org/the-history-of-zionist-collusion-with-nazis
          These people have an agenda and it’s NOT removing Tories from office!

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          • Again, however blameless and right you doubtless believe your position is, you need to be able to view this through others’ eyes.

            You’re talking of an international conspiracy of “they” hiding behind “the Jew”, helping the Nazis and so on.

            It’s not a good look. Take it from me. I’m a lefty, a Corbyn supporter, and not interested in the proxy war of Palestine v Israel within the Labour Party. I do think anti-Semitism has been cynically exploited by some people.

            Yet I find what you wrote here deeply disconcerting at best, because you may not intend it as anti-Semitic, but it doesn’t half come across that way. You should have a long hard look in the mirror. We all live in self-reinforcing bubbles, and I fear yours may have led you to a dark place.

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  1. Reblogged this on Fear and loathing in Great Britain and commented:
    It’s my CLP’s right to select their representative. They don’t owe me their loyalty no matter what I do. Rather, I owe them MY loyalty, because I am the beneficiary of their work and their votes in selecting me as candidate.

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  2. Thanks to Skwawkbox I have read the full article. Eminently sane and sensible. Keep up the good work, but please reduce the spacing between paragraphs. Thanks and best wishes for your time on the Island. A good place to be for a bit of time, but equally a little cut-off. We enjoyed our time there.

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    • I admit that I seem to have a strange problem with spacing on wordpress. If I don’t double space the paragraphs, then wordpress tends to leave no spaces at all. It’s very irritating!

      I live on the island with my family. I’m planning to stay here. It’s a beautiful place to be, not just for a holiday!

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  3. This clear and well-thought through article is so helpful to me in my rather emotional reaction, anger, sadness, to yesterday’s events. Thank you.

    Best wishes

    Susan

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  4. Ye. I have a long memory too. I remember back in 1975 (was it ?) when a Newham Labour MP called Reg Prentice was getting some grief from local party members. I recall the PLP machine sent half the cabinet down to defend him in a packed meeting of the CLP. Literally days after that, Prentice walked the walk – not to oblivion as an “independent” but all the way over to the Tories. The Tories treated him like the SIS treated Moscow Centre defector Carla in the Le Carre novel – found him a safe seat, and after the 1979 election gave him a junior ministers job for his pains. Cannot remember what the view of the PLP was then……..

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    • I think this is a very serious point, David.

      The leadership’s response to attacks by the irreconcilable Right, no matter how unreasonable those attacks, seems to be to appease, concede, and deploy a new olive branch.

      Yet I don’t see any evidence at all that the extreme Right is in any way appeasable. Rather, every concession is seen as a victory, which must be exploited by pressing harder and further.

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  5. It should never have come to this – the underlying problems that led to Wavertree’s no-confidence motion were left unaddressed and as a result we have this situation which is bad for everyone involved. Those trying to undo damage by quashing the CLP’s motion should have been there at the start to promote unity and work through disagreements. This is the kind of split in the party that loses credibility and loses elections.

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  6. Reblogged this on TheCritique Archives and commented:
    “it is an arrogant and contemptuous position for MPs or candidates to attack an entire CLP for simply having members who dare to suggest they might like to choose to a different representative. It is even worse when MPs accuse those CLPs of having malign motives, or of “bullying”. Even if some members did have malign motives, it would require a majority to pass a vote of no confidence. Do we really have MPs arguing that a majority of any CLP – hundreds or thousands of individuals – are motivated by malignancy?”

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  7. An excellent piece. I moved down here two and a half years ago and have become increasingly appalled by what’s happening to the Island. It’s not grown-up to say it but my loathing for Bob Seely increases by the day! To read such common sense from you is a breath of fresh air. There seems to be a major lack of integrity and transparency on the Island, particularly when it comes to local councils. My Parish Council is one of the worst – I wonder if you can guess which! I arrived via Martin Odoni but I also follow Skwarkbox and am very glad to have found you.

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  8. Thanks for this piece, reflects my thoughts exactly, it’s counter to democracy if the representative is not accountable to the electorate? And how robust is a democracy where actors outside the electorate can change their decision?

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