The Growth Mindset : Telling Penguins to Flap Harder ?

I’m not sure whether this particular blog might lose me friends. It’s not intended to, but I’m going to stumble into an area where I know some people have very strong views. It was prompted by a post-parents’ evening trawl through some blogs, and I came across this blog by Dylan Wiliam :

I’m generally a fan of Dylan Wiliam, although I once tried to joke with him on Twitter, and I’m not sure my humour survived the transition to 140 characters. If I made any impression, it was almost certainly a bad one. Oh well. In any case, it’s not actually his blog on feedback which is at issue here – it’s a good piece, and I agree with the central message about marking/feedback. The bit I want to write about is this :

“Students must understand that they are not born with talent (or lack of it) and that their personalities do not determine whether or not they are “good at math” or “good at writing.” Rather, ability is incremental. The harder you work, the smarter you get. Once students begin to understand this “growth mindset” as Carol Dweck calls it, students are much more likely to embrace feedback from their teachers.”

The thing is, I disagree.

I don’t absolutely disagree: I am sure that there is some relationship between effort and outcomes. But I’ve seen a lot of people – good people who I have much in common with – write about the “growth mindset” in a way which is almost religious. Many take a similar line to that taken above, which seems to suggest that none of us are constrained in any way by ability, aptitude or whatever else you want to call any inherent attributes. The only thing that matters is effort, hard work, perseverance etc. Yet it seems to me that this is a theory which describes the world as we would want it to be, rather than the world as it is. This is a little personal too : my children are adopted, and while all have made incredible progress at school given the challenges they have faced, none of the three will ever be in any top sets, and two will continue to struggle throughout school. This is absolutely not down to a failure to try hard enough. I recognise that I am in a comparatively rare position of being an academic high-achiever with academically low-achieving children, and perhaps that perspective is one reason why I don’t see the “growth mindset”, as it is currently promoted in some quarters, as the inspirational positive principle which others do.

I’m going to structure this blog in a way which will hopefully be easy to follow. First, some evidence and anecdotes which seem to contradict the way Dweck’s theory is increasingly being presented (I entirely acknowledge, by the way, that Ms Dweck is much more nuanced in her conclusions than is sometimes suggested by those who cite her name while outlining a much more black-and-white worldview). Then I’ll note some arguments as to why we should be rather cautious about adopting the “Growth Mindset” approach as some sort of universal principle. David Didau has already covered much of this ground in his blog, but if we never allowed for repetition in the blogosphere, there’d be nothing left on the internet except rude videos and pictures of kittens, so I’m going to do it anyway.

I’m a long-winded old git, so I’m also providing a handy summary for those who don’t like reading much.

Summary

  • The above quote is wrong, and so is the notion of “Talent = hard work + persistence”
  • Dweck’s careful research is metamorphosing in the hands of others into a vacuous slogan
  • Ability, or talent, is significantly constrained by factors external to the student
  • These disadvantages cannot always be overcome
  • An education system which refuses to recognise these disadvantages punishes children, teachers and schools unjustly
  • The “Talent = hard work + persistence” version of the growth mindset is very useful for sociopaths
  •  “Growth Mindset” is potentially the next “learning styles” or “progress in each lesson” fad
  • I have a bucket of penguin-regurgitated fish dinners waiting for any teacher who tells my children they only failed because they didn’t try hard enough, and for any head who uses the growth mindset to avoid providing the additional assistance they need

What’s it all about ?

Dweck’s broad theory is that students tend to fall into two camps : those who attribute their outcomes to external/ unchangeable factors such as intelligence or ability, and those who attribute their outcomes to internal, changeable factors, such as effort and perseverance. The latter group, she argues, then do rather better than the former when they come across challenges. This is not quite the same as the version of Dweck which is gaining traction rather quickly in the English education system, which is closer to the quote I took from Dylan Wiliam’s blog above : that the only determinant of outcomes is effort and perseverance.  Dweck can’t be blamed for that, and I can see how her theory could, in the hands of those of us who don’t have to meticulously footnote our tweets and policy statements, gradually metamorphose into the idea expressed above and in many other places.

Case not proven

Others have noted that education evidence is often quite a long way from “evidence” as it might be understood in the scientific world. Often, evidence is the result of a single, unreplicated study. For example, Jack Marwood recently demolished the oft-repeated “evidence” about “good” and “bad” teachers . Frequently “evidence” and “personal anecdote” are unfortunately confused; for example grammar schools have never been vehicles for social mobility according to rather solid data, yet thousands continue to claim the opposite. Occasionally, the “evidence” is actually not evidence at all, but nonsense; for example, remember “learning styles”, anyone ?

Where does Dweck’s work fit in ? Well, I’m not even going to try to offer a critique of her study – that’s way above my academic pay grade. However, others have done so, and have not always supported her conclusions. As an example, I would steer readers to the following article, which is on the whole positive about Dweck’s theories: interview with Dweck .  The point here is that there have been other studies which have not been able to replicate Dweck’s original results. In addition, Dweck herself noted that there was no apparent correlation between performance at school and whether one has a “growth” or “fixed” mindset.

I’m not saying her theory is wrong. I’m merely noting that there is room for reasonable disagreement here. The growth mindset theory is not a fact, like gravity or evolution. It’s a theory, which sounds nice, but is unproven as a universal principle applicable in all situations. So having established that there’s room to disagree without being burned at the stake as an unrepentant luddite of educational theory, let me go on to make some observations which contradict the idea of “growth mindset”.

Nature

When going through the adoption process, I did the sort of research and reading which you might normally associate with a PhD (it seemed to me reasonable that if one was about to take on the responsibility for children, one should put a bit of effort into preparing for it). I certainly read more about this than I ever did for my PPE finals at university. And what I found was something which even today I don’t like : there does appear to be a very significant body of evidence which suggests some element of intelligence is genetic. I’m not going to argue the ins and outs of that here. Feel free to google the “nature versus nurture” debate for yourself. However, the bottom line is that I very much did not want to believe that intelligence was in any way hereditary, but I was forced to concede that what I wanted to be the case, is not what is actually the case.

If a hefty amount of what we understand as intelligence is in fact something we either have or we haven’t, then at best, the “growth mindset” theory is going to be limited to trying to achieve better outcomes for individuals who have a lower potential range of outcomes than other individuals, and at worst, it’s meaningless.

Quite clearly it is not the case that, as Dylan Wiliam put it in his blog :

“Talent = hard work + persistence”

Generously, one might rephrase that as :

“Talent = Genes*(hard work + persistence)”

Nurture

Adoption and twin studies have largely informed the conclusion that significant amounts of ability are inherited, and thus nothing to do with effort or hard work. But we also need to look carefully at nurture too. Children born into higher socio-economic groups get a lot of advantages in terms of child development, many of which feed into ability at school : vocabulary, stimulation inside and outside the home, diet, parental encouragement, early reading and so on. Of course I am in no way suggesting that all middle-class households provide wonderful home environments and all working-class households do not. But the evidence on this is again, fairly clear.

The graph below (by Chris Cook, and shamelessly lifted from Jack Marwood’s blog), is about as clear an indication of this as it is ever possible to show.

GRaph of Doom

Indeed, there’s even the rather chilling possibility that such advantages of wealth can create further physiological advantages in some children, to add to the existing genetic advantages they may already carry. Susan Greenfield’s work on the development of intelligence in infants suggests that developing processing ability may be closely linked to the number of connections or neural pathways formed within our brains in our early years. These connections are multiplied by various stimuli which are not exclusive to middle-class households, but are perhaps more likely to occur within them (I’m paraphrasing – awfully – a presentation she gave to Ken Robinson’s National Committee for Creative and Cultural Education back in my civil service days). The good news is that the brain retains plasticity beyond infancy, so further connections can be developed. The bad news is that the same factors which make those connections more likely to occur in middle-class infancy, remain relevant as the child ages – further increasing their relative ability. This may well explain the often noted observation that wealthier children who start school with apparently lower ability than poorer children, accelerate past their less advantaged peers as time goes on.

To a certain extent, it doesn’t matter whether these advantages are nurture or nature or a combination of both. The inescapable conclusion is that there is a direct relationship between socio-economic status and outcomes. I don’t know any but the wilfully blind who deny this, by the way. Now this is where I start to really struggle with the “growth mindset” idea as it is often presented. Because if the growth mindset theory holds, then logically we would have to accept that the lower your socio-economic background, the more “fixed” your mindset, while the students with the “growth mindsets” all happen, coincidentally, to be from richer households. That seems unlikely given that we’re talking about an attitude of mind here.

This sounds a little like a counsel of despair, but one simply cannot reconcile the idea of the growth mindset, as presented repeatedly by well-meaning people, with the graph above. Our equation thus seems to have become :

Talent = (Genes + socio-economic background)*(hard work + persistence)

Anecdote

I often criticise people for the typical failure of mistaking a collection of anecdotes for evidence. I was going to write here about my own experience as a deeply lazy child who nevertheless achieved top grades in O-levels and A-levels, then went on to Oxford to obtain a good degree (yes, ok, a 2:1) despite spending 6 days of each week doing nothing but playing squash and rugby league, or lounging on the back quad while appreciating the apparent ubiquity of lycra cycling shorts, followed by one massive essay crisis from 8pm to 2am on a Sunday night. I was then going to contrast that with the experience of my beloved children, who work far, far harder than I ever did, both at home and at school, struggling to achieve in Year 6 that which I had already mastered before I even went to school. My own children not only have different genes, but they have some early life experiences which have quite clearly contributed directly to finding schoolwork a real struggle – no matter how hard they work. Fortunately, nearly all their teachers, and their school, have recognised these very real issues and have done their level best to provide assistance. Which is good, because if you think my blogs are occasionally angry, you should try telling me that you think my kids don’t work hard enough. But those are anecdotes.

Similarly, it would be anecdotal to note that I’ve now taught more than a thousand students by my estimation, and amongst those thousands, I would say with some certainty that the relationship between their effort and outcomes was, at best, limited. I have a party trick. It’s not a great party trick, because few parties last 7 years, but nevertheless: give me the KS2 data for previous achievement of a Year 7 student, then let me read their first piece of extended written work, and I can predict with remarkable accuracy which students will end up achieving A grades at A level in seven years time, and which students will not be able to stay in sixth form because they won’t get the necessary GCSE grades. And it won’t matter whether I teach them or not. And nor will the accuracy of those predictions be affected by whether they are students who work incredibly hard, or students to whom everything comes easy – as it did for me back in the Neolithic period. Still, it’s just anecdotal.

So let me just put it like this. Dear reader, think back to when you were at school. Or indeed, if you’re a teacher, think of your classes. Do you remember that student who always got excellent grades despite never breaking sweat ? Do you remember that lovely child who worked so incredibly hard but just never quite managed to achieve what her cruising classmate always did ? How can we reconcile those near-universal experiences with the idea of the growth mindset as “talent = hard work + persistence” ? We can’t. In every one of our schools, every day, carefree but able children are achieving better outcomes than Stakhanovite but less able children. That is not because the more able children have a more positive mindset – indeed as noted before, Dweck herself found no correlation between outcomes and mindset in schools – it’s because they are more able in terms of what the education system recognises and rewards as “talent”.

So you, a random anonymous blogger, are saying that the world-famous Carol Dweck is wrong ?

No. I’m not saying that at all. Dweck oversaw a study which produced certain results, from which she drew reasonable conclusions. Others have not been able to replicate those results. This is very common in the field of educational research, and does not mean she is wrong. I have absolutely no problem with the concept that there is a relationship between effort and outcomes. If I’d put more effort in at college, I’d have had a better chance of achieving a first. If my children put less effort in today, they’d have even less chance of achieving a Level 3 in maths by the end of Year 6. I’m yet to meet a teacher who doesn’t accept from their own empirical observations that effort can impact on outcomes. That is not my objection at all.

I merely think some growth mindset promoters are perhaps overegging this particular pudding. It simply isn’t the case that there is conclusive evidence that all we need to do to help all children achieve 100% is to convince them it’s all about hard work and not about ability. I fully accept Dweck’s argument that students with a growth mindset may be less disenchanted by failure, and perhaps even more adventurous or resilient. But that does not seem to me to be the same as accepting that children who hold a growth mindset outlook will necessarily outperform children who do not hold such views, and nor does it follow that those with a growth mindset will necessarily perform any better than they would if they themselves did not hold such views.

My objection is to the way in which Dweck’s conclusions are rapidly metamorphosing into something completely different, and thus reinforcing the set of existing bonkers principles which are largely shaping education policy. Dweck’s well-meaning and perfectly reasonable research may well end up producing toxic outcomes if we don’t nip it in the bud.

Bad for children

It’s interesting that people can look upon the same words and see completely different meanings. Some people will read the quote from Dylan Wiliam’s blog at the top, and his equation, and see that as an inspiring message for children of all abilities; the educational equivalent of Obama’s “Yes We Can”. Yet others, and I include myself here, look on those words and see something which can easily be interpreted by the intended beneficiaries as a form of blame.

To a certain extent, I feel the growth mindset is the equivalent of putting a penguin next to an eagle and inviting them to both take off. When the eagle is a speck in the sky, the observer then tells the penguin that the only reason it isn’t also flying is that it isn’t putting enough effort in. If only it flaps its wings harder, it’ll be chasing the eagle in no time. At which point, I hope the penguin regurgitates fish into the silly observer’s face. It’s not a lack of a positive attitude which prevents the penguin from flying, it’s a lack of wingspan !

So it is for some children. For all the reasons above, some children will be penguins in an education system which values flight as the ultimate goal. And when they flap their wings as hard as they can, repeatedly, and still fail to take off, they are then hit with a double whammy : firstly they’ve failed to fly, and secondly they’re being told that the only reason that they’ve failed is because they’re not trying hard enough. There may be some people reading this who are now hopping up and down saying “but that’s not true, that’s not what the growth mindset is about, it encompasses failure and attitudes to it!”. But most adults would fail to grasp that kind of subtlety, so why would we expect less able children to be able to perceive it ? The logic is fairly inexorable. If their school is pushing the “growth mindset” message in a slightly bastardized way which states that only effort and persistence determine talent or outcomes, then those children will very clearly understand that when they fail to achieve the best outcomes, their failure is their fault. Now if they haven’t put any effort in, they may take that one on the chin. But what if they have worked hard? What if they swallowed all that growth mindset guff about it all being about effort, and then still crashed and burned ? Still their fault ? That’s a pretty terrible message to send to a child. Especially when we know it’s not true, given the evidence of genetic and socio-economic contributions to talent and outcomes. We need to handle such theories with care and avoid damaging simplifications.

penguin-cartoon

A penguin with a growth mindset

Bad for teachers

One of the aforementioned bonkers assumptions already at play in the education system is that the most important input which affects results for children is the teacher (or, in the case of defined groups of children, the school). These are assumptions which are absolutely central to performance related pay, the Ofsted inspection system, “closing the gap” policy and so on. The only problem, as Blackadder said to Baldrick, is that they’re bollocks. Others have written excellent blogs on how the impact of the teacher, or the school, is peripheral compared to the impact of external factors, not least those mentioned above regarding socio-economic background and genes, so there’s no need to repeat those arguments here.

The danger of the “growth mindset” as it is being promoted, is that it fits very neatly into this pantheon of bollocks. If one accepts the premise that any child, from any background, with any starting ability, can achieve 100% based solely on hard work, then we can merrily blame the teachers and schools for all outcomes, because if the least able child starting school does not “close the gap” with the most able child, then that must be because schools and teachers haven’t done enough to make the child work hard, or show sufficient “grit”. You can see some of this argument starting to emerge in the media now, as various commentators – often those who pronounce simplistic cobblers about how “good” teachers make X years of difference over “bad” teachers – start talking about the importance of schools teaching “grit”, or “moral character”, or “resilience”. None of these things are bad in themselves, but they are not being promoted as “it would be nice to have more of this”, they are being promoted as “and if your inner city kids don’t all turn out to be Stephen Hawking, then you have failed to give them the only tools they need – a protestant work ethic and a stiff upper lip”.

In other words, it feeds into that Godawful laminated-card slogan which one hears far too often at all levels of the education system:  a “No Excuses Culture”. I have a friend who coined his own equivalent of Godwin’s Law, which is that anybody who uses the term “wealth-creator”, without irony or qualification, is an arse (he didn’t use the word arse, but my blog profanity only goes so far). I would suggest that anybody in education who uses the phrase “No Excuses Culture” without irony or qualification is also an arse. Because a “No Excuses Culture” which refuses to acknowledge such very real issues as the external constraints shaping a child’s life and abilities, is basically just a “No Reality Culture”, or perhaps a “No Intelligence Culture”.

I loathe this inaccurate, simplistic nonsense. But the “Growth Mindset” is already being adopted by the proponents of such nonsense as evidence that they were right, that everyone can indeed achieve the same outcomes, and that only the teachers’ and pupils’ own sweat and grit stand between them and a clean sweep of A* grades.  Handily, this excuses Ofsted from having to exercise any actual judgement about schools which isn’t simply a comparison of absolute outcomes, and it excuses some lazy or unimaginative schools from having to offer any additional or creative support or help to the disadvantaged students – after all, they’re just not trying hard enough. Make them do more. After school sessions, weekend sessions, holiday sessions. Work harder and longer, get the results. That’s the growth mindset, right?

Bad for society

It’s long been noted that those who achieve great success in life tend to downplay the role of happenstance or external circumstances in helping them reach the top. Indeed, read any interview with a very rich person and you’ll often find them emphasising how with hard work and persistence they overcame great disadvantages which clearly seem very real to them, even if the burden of attending only a minor public school, and having one of the ten family businesses go through a sticky patch, doesn’t necessarily seem like a great disadvantage to the rest of us.

However, what the “Growth Mindset” does is feed very nicely into that self-delusion. It is astonishing how quickly “Talent = effort + persistence” becomes “I am successful, therefore I worked hard; you are not as successful, therefore you cannot have worked as hard”, which rapidly becomes “I deserve everything I have; you deserve nothing”. The consequences of that sort of mindset are extremely grave for society as a whole, from the erosion of support for the welfare state, through tax avoidance, to the increasing categorization of the poor into “deserving” and “undeserving”. Hands up if you haven’t already noticed the growth of those themes in our society.

Of course, some might argue that the “growth mindset” is actually helpful in this regard, by giving children the belief that they can overcome their disadvantages and escape their background. This is, in my humble opinion, self-serving rot. If we as a society refuse to acknowledge that ability is, in fact, shaped by hugely influential forces which exist beyond the control of the individual, then we abdicate any responsibility for seeking to address those disadvantages. Redistributive taxation system ? No, people can all rise by their own efforts. Welfare system ? No, people are poor because they don’t try hard enough. Sure Start early years intervention to try and tackle some issues early? No, they can close the gap at school through their own efforts and those of their teachers.

In terms of society, I see “Growth Mindset” described in the terms “Talent = effort + persistence” and I hear Ayn Rand’s siren call of unmitigated sociopathy. I don’t think it’s coincidental that the concept began and developed in the US, where the American Dream ideal is still clung to despite all the evidence that social mobility there is hardly less sclerotic than it is here.

social-mobility_1454493cBoris : “I got here by working hard. Show some grit, ragamuffins.”

So what would you do, you fatalist loser ?

Just to be clear again, I am not in any way denying that there is a link between effort and outcomes. Nor am I suggesting that we, as teachers, should tell children that it is not within their power to improve their outcomes. We absolutely should emphasise the importance of effort, and encourage them to see failure as a learning process rather than a discouraging brick wall. If these are the messages the “growth mindset” take into classrooms, then I’ll happily sing that tune. But, of course, I already do. Doesn’t everyone ?

There is no need for a binary position here. It’s not the case that you either have to believe that outcomes can be determined solely by effort and persistence, or you must imitate a 17th Century Puritan and preach predestination. It’s perfectly possible for us to adopt a position of encouraging effort as a means of improving outcomes, while simultaneously accepting the concept of external constraints and disadvantages which demand additional support, and will lead to lower outcomes than the less disadvantaged might expect. This will allow us to reach much more accurate and fair evaluations of teacher performance, and also avoid the danger of heaping blame on children for outcomes which they could not reasonably avoid.

In David Didau’s blog he noted that the questions I’ve raised above, and others have raised elsewhere, are valid ones, and he acknowledged that it would be worrying if growth mindset was being interpreted in that way in British schools. But he didn’t think it was. I think it is. The simplistic, inaccurate version of “growth mindset”, which could be written as “Talent = effort + persistence”, for example, is precisely the sort of message which is gaining traction amongst education policy shapers and enforcers in this country, not least because it fits beautifully with Ofsted’s existing simplistic inaccurate positions on school performance and closing the gap, and the DFE’s simplistic, inaccurate position on performance related pay. Now Dweck may never have intended that her theory be bastardized into nonsense, and then used in a damaging and oversimplistic way by such intellectual giants as Wilshaw and Gove, but nevertheless, in my opinion it is.

I have written in the past about the need for greater nuance in education policy. That also applies to the interpretation and application of educational research such as Dweck’s. The danger of an education system which is as centralised as ours now is, and in which schools have become so hypersensitive to an overbearing, untrustworthy and arbitrary behemoth like Ofsted, is that very quickly, carefully researched, nuanced ideas with some evidence behind them, rapidly change to become damaging centrally-dictated orthodoxies pretending to be universal panaceas.

At some point in the past, the not-irrational idea that it might be useful to try using different methods in lessons to get the message home, became the concept of “learning styles” which had to be shown in each lesson. In the last two years, the perfectly sensible idea that occasionally students might benefit from a little more in-depth consideration of their own work, has become a mountain of compulsory double-marking, endless DIRT and colour coded dots. The growth mindset is in danger of heading that way; I see too much wholehearted adoption of an oversimplified, and thus inaccurate, stance towards student achievement, based within the profession on a well-meaning desire to promote a positive, inspirational message of hope, but outside the profession supported by those advocating a self-serving philosophy which justifies inaction and victim-blaming.

PS – Penguins can’t fly. But they can swim much better than eagles. My kids swim really well.

47 thoughts on “The Growth Mindset : Telling Penguins to Flap Harder ?

  1. You are a brave man, and I like that. Also, I like your writing style, and recognise the deep thought which it captures. Also, I think you are largely right about this. There are a truck load of uncertainties in the World, and a truck load of uncertainties in the edu-world. This is undeniable, I think. Hence, anything that is rapidly adopted in the edu-world should be very closely scrutinised….as you say, it’s not like we haven’t seen this effect before.

    I am disappointed that socio-economic factors appear to be the biggest determinant of outcome for children. This needs to be understood as best we can and measures taken to try and level the playing field, but that is separate from the Growth Mindset debate, I think. I think it is also clear that students (and adults) do better when they work harder. This is a relative thing. I do not believe that everyone is capable of doing anything, just as long as they work harder. It is also likely that students make progress at different rates, and that adults are capable of making progress when they leave education. I also think that most people (students and adults) are capable of achieving far more than they think they can. I also think that the edu-world should not seek to limit students, or give them the idea that their progress is limited when in school…..that there is a ceiling (and that it isn’t worth the edu-world making an effort with them). To be frank, I think we do all have limits on what we can achieve, but I also think it is likely to be rare that most students will reach that limit when at school (they will be limited by their rate of progress, rather than an absolute limit). Not sure if this is very clear. Ho hum.

    Overall, I like it that Growth Mindset encourages high expectations, but don’t like the unrealistic hype, or the various negative unintended consequences of which you speak. Like you, I tend to believe that the positive elements of Growth Mindset are what you might hope all schools are doing anyway, and I am very unconvinced that any school needs to declare itself a Growth Mindset school. (I suspect I have ended up being as brave as you).

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    • I don’t think it was brave as such. I’m not expecting pitchforks and flaming torches. I also hope nobody feels personally affronted by my views – I’m disagreeing with theories here, not abusing people (well, except for Laurel and Hardy, as usual).

      This is personal though. As the father of less able children, I have watched as the options offered by the education system have narrowed and narrowed in the last 5 years. By 2010, I was really quite optimistic that my girls would be able to access some decent applied qualifications which would give them a sense of achievement and encouragement, and which might equip them with skills and experience which could lead to a job in a field like childcare, or travel and tourism. It’s so easy for highly academic adults with highly academic children to be sniffy about such qualifications, but for children who really struggle with traditional academic subjects, these were genuinely useful routes through school. I felt, back in 2010, that we were beginning to develop an education system which was going to cater well for children of all abilities, offering a variety of different options.

      Then came Gove. Now all my kids have to look forward to is failure in a narrowly traditionalist curriculum which they are very unlikely to be able to access. Yet Gove and his fellow travellers made endless speeches about how these changes would help children from disadvantaged backgrounds by forcing schools to squeeze them into the straitjacket of the ebacc. Gove clearly believed he was being sincere, and I couldn’t work out why, until realization struck : he did not see disadvantaged children as being less able than more advantaged children : he saw them as just children with the same ability as himself, but with less cash. He could not, it seems, imagine what it was like to be less able, and so he dismissed those children who struggle at school as lazy, or failed by their teachers, or somehow being impacted by choices which were either being made by the child, or by the school.

      This lack of empathy and understanding isn’t unique. Civil servants, political advisors, ministers, headteachers, education researchers – they all tend to be academically high-achieving people, and their children tend to be academically high achieving too. So, on the whole, are their peer groups and their children’s peer groups. So we shouldn’t be surprised when they fail utterly to comprehend what it is like to just not be able to do it, no matter how hard they try.

      A lot of Gove’s policies have made school a much less welcoming, much more difficult, and much less productive place for less able children : the sweeping away of applied qualifications, the narrowing of the curriculum and option choices to an academic model unsuited to less able kids, the shoehorning in of extra content to exams. For each of these policies, he claimed he was helping to combat a culture of low expectations, and ensuring disadvantaged children received a better education. Yet again, that only works if you believe that disadvantaged children are only held back by schools, teachers and their own choices. As soon as you acknowledge that some people have inherent constraints which are not within the power of the individual or the school to change, then those changes immediately become the equivalent of building a wall called “failure” between the less able and any positive outcome from the education system.

      My children are now on the wrong side of that wall, as are the less able children of millions of other parents. But not many of those parents are vocal, write blogs, or lobby MPs. The parents of those less able children are not the middle-class readers of the broadsheets or the political party activists. I wonder how many parents of less able children were asked their views on whether they thought the changes were a good thing ? I wonder how many less academic adults were consulted on whether they would have liked a narrower, harder curriculum, with fewer opportunities in practical or vocational subjects ?

      This is why I am ever so concerned about the “growth mindset” as it is developing in this country. It is the other side of the Govian coin. It, too, removes the responsibility of schools, and the education system as a whole, to plan and deliver useful outcomes for less academically able children. Instead, it tells those children that they, too, have to fly, even though their wings won’t carry them over the academic wall which is being built. Then when they fail, it tells them that they didn’t flap hard enough.

      It’s not the kids who should be told that they have to work harder to jump over the walls we build higher in front of them. It’s us who should work harder to help those kids find their way round the obstacles which accidents of birth and upbringing have already placed between them and useful educational outcomes.

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      • Well now. This is more important than the original blog, I think. Definitely, the narrative has become about opposition to denying less advantaged children the benefit of a rigorous academic education through ‘low expectations’. There has also been a thread of thought which says that all children are inherently capable of accessing such an education…..that there are no genuine cognitive barriers. This has been very strong. Again, I don’t think this is really part of the Growth Mindset issue (although I agree that Growth Mindset could, if implemented in a non-nuanced fashion, exacerbate any problems).

        I am an academically high achieving individual, and so were my children. So, as you rightly point out, I only have my perspective. And, I agree that almost everyone inputting into the debate is likewise blind sided. We are at the crux of ‘what is education for’, here. What are useful educational outcomes? -Jobs? -cultural emancipation? -the fight for equality of opportunity? What would be a balanced outcome for your children (this might be becoming too specific for comfort?).

        This is really important, I think.

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        • You’re right – there are some big issues here, and I don’t think I can answer all those questions beyond the simplistic statement that I believe the purpose of the education system should be to prepare all children for a life as independent adults, and to offer academic or vocational opportunities which suit their interests and abilities. That is not a goal which can be achieved with a very narrow academic curriculum imposed on all children, although for some children a very narrow academic curriculum may well be what suits them or prepares them for higher education. But there should be options and choices which cater to different children. We’re moving away from that ideal fast.

          I would absolutely disagree with the argument that there are no genuine cognitive barriers; there clearly are, as the evidence of genes alone show. Certainly if one is removing time from the equation and arguing that any child can achieve the same outcome at the same point in time. Some children might need a lot longer to reach a particular destination than others. Other children may never reach that destination. I don’t think Dweck was suggesting this sort of panglossian theory that all it takes is positive thinking and every child can get 100%, but I do think some people/schools which have adopted a “growth mindset” slogan have occasionally spilled over into this sort of impossible and dangerous wishful thinking.

          I should add that I too used to share the ignorance of the high achiever. I was perhaps never as lacking in empathy as Gove and his fellow-travellers, in that I attended a very tough comprehensive, and my peer group were very much not high achievers, so I knew from childhood that achievement wasn’t down to effort alone by a very long shot. However, I remained a bit of an intellectual snob, looking down on practical subjects when I became a history teacher. Not my proudest moment. Then the children arrived and my eyes were truly opened. Looking at schools from the bottom through their eyes is a very different view from that which one obtained looking down from the top. The old me would have probably championed the “growth mindset” in a well-meaning Guardian-reader sort of way. The more knowledgeable me is less blasé, I guess.

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  2. This is fascinating. Thank you for this. One key thing to consider is that some teachers come at such questions from a background where they never got stuck, so it’s perhaps harder for them to understand how it feels to struggle at something. I sometimes get this reaction when I explain that I just find maths *really hard*. I get told to change my mindset, or it must be the fault of my teachers, but that rather misses the point I am making. It just is REALLY HARD for me! ;)

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  3. You have an incredible knack of saying what I am thinking but haven’t managed to articulate (sometimes not even to myself). I was preparing comments as I read and then you covered them all later in the blog.

    I think in your comments you may have hit on a crucial point. The people setting the agenda often have no personal experience of the children you, and many of us, are concerned about. I hadn’t until I started teaching Foundation level (in FE terms) students in sixth form. They covered wide range of students. There were those who were perfectly able but lazy, those who had simply not been taught in the way they needed, those with previously undiagnosed learning issues, those who had such difficult home backgrounds that I was amazed they could ever make their way into college and those who worked hard but found everything a struggle. The way you suspect growth mindset is starting to be used would work for only a couple of those groups and could actually damage several.

    I would love to see the powers that be come and work with classes like the ones I have taught. It may help politicians understand so much more about the people they seem to look down on so much. I was wary when I was first asked to teach them but I (mostly) enjoyed the experience and those students taught me a lot.

    I have tended to take what I thought is appropriate from education theories and fads and ignored the rest but doing this is becoming ever more difficult as scrutiny of teachers is becoming more intense. It would be incredibly sad if those children, like yours, who already struggle are even further disadvantaged.

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    • Thanks Mavis.

      I think I’d go even further than your second paragraph. Policy-makers and pundits often are willing to acknowledge extreme circumstances such as childhood trauma or disabilities, but often that’s all they are willing to acknowledge. Essentially it’s an attitude of “This 5% have got SEN, so we don’t expect too much, but nobody else has an excuse, so close the gap”.

      Unfortunately, that still lumps 95% of the population, with a huge range of abilities, aptitudes and talents, into one amorphous mass, who are shoehorned into a school system which is increasingly tailored solely to the interests and abilities of the top decile – very academic, ebacc, aimed at university. When the bulk cannot successfully meet those expectations, there’s nothing else for them. They are simply failures. I think of lovely, hard-working kids I taught last year, for example, who were not allowed to stay on in sixth form because they didn’t get the requisite number of B grades at GCSE. Yet we’re a comprehensive. But since the slashing of the applied/vocational courses, the options for those students have plummeted. The school could only offer them highly academic (and about to become even harder) A-level courses, which would consign them to U and E grades, effectively wasting 2 years of their young lives. So I don’t blame the school, I blame the government which removed what used to be a flourishing vocational post-16 provision.

      Those kids, and tens of thousands of similar kids around the country, are out – because they’ve failed, or because we’ve failed, according to Ofsted, or the DFE, or the privately educated, high-achieving pundits. But those kids worked hard to achieve what they could, and we have a duty as a country to offer them an education which is useful to them, not simply deny their reality, declare them failures and chuck them onto the scrap heap.

      What enables this outrage is this toxic philosophy that the only thing which prevents all from achieving the success which comes so easy to the most able, is a lack of application on the part of the child, or a lack of skill on the part of the teacher, or a lack of leadership on the part of the school. It is a philosophy which denies both humanity and reality, and which allows those who already have all the advantages – whether intellectual, social, or economic – to shrug their shoulders and turn away from the “undeserving” failures they have created. I don’t think that’s what “growth mindset” was originally about, but I do think that’s what it is likely to become under these thoughtless policy-makers who have demonstrated such an incredible lack of understanding that other people might just be different from them.

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  4. Very interesting post, articulating many things I’ve been struggling to put into words myself. It does seem a coincidence that a theory which argues that achievement or failure is down to the individual as opposed to obstacles that society imposes, namely poverty, has had such prominence under this government. Norman Tebbit’s remark about getting on your bike to find a job seems like a metaphor for growth mindset in some ways.

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  5. Yes. Yes. Yes.
    I am no stranger to working hard at things and having high expectations, but, as you say, there is nothing like being an academic parent with a child who struggles with school, in our case Down’s syndrome, to throw it all into relief. Yes, my son will benefit from working hard, but also yes, he will be limited by his genes. Teaching him, and others like him (indeed, parenting him too), requires a subtle blend of believing in the best, tempered with reality and imaginative (and sometimes extraordinarily persistent) solutions and/or techniques.
    So many time I, as a parent, have heard teachers clIm that they ‘treat him the same as everyone else’, which, frankly, makes my eyes pop because he is self evidently not. Equally, I have seen people make excuses for him because they believe that he is somehow ‘other’.
    We need nuance – and we need to shout long and hard about it in education. There are no easy fixes, no silver bullets. What we need are intelligent, caring, thinking adults in the profession who can respond appropriately to the situations they find themselves in, in the best interests of the children they teach.
    Enjoyed this blog very much and all the best to your girls.

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  6. My favourite part of this excellent blog and ensuing discussion are the author’s words’ I believe the purpose of the education system should be to prepare all children for a life as independent adults, and to offer academic or vocational opportunities which suit their interests and abilities. That is not a goal which can be achieved with a very narrow academic curriculum imposed on all children’.
    An excellently made point which hits at the heart of what is currently wrong with education. The Germans for example have a much healthier balance of vocational vs non vocational education and both routes are valued by society.

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  7. A fascinating blogpost and replies. So much thought and effort has gone into both.

    I can’t say I agree or disagree with much of what is written here. Having read Dewck’s minset stuff from cover to cover several times, I feel I ought to say that my interpretation and use of this stuff is different to yours.

    I think it is obvious that high expectations are important, but I don’t think growth mindset is about expectations at all, I see it as about process and the way that people see learning, mistakes and reflection.

    I think it is also obvious that not everyone can learn everything and I believe that one would need to be a little confused to believe this.I do believe that there are a range of abilities and as we might expect in the midst of the distribution most kids will have similar abilities. At the tails less so.

    For me the link between deprivation and long term success is also a no brainer, but this is one place where mindset meets poverty. For me deprivation and parenting go some way to explaining growth mindset. For me growth mindset is closely allied to learning independence for many.

    In my experience, there is a clear link between belief that one will achieve and success. This for me is mindset. This for me is closely related to self image and self belief.

    I believe like all educational theory which has been used and abused, mindset stuff is useful if used to inform action rather than evidence that everyone can learn anything.

    The academic vs vocational is a different issue for me.

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    • I think one problem is students and some teachers and senior leaders, maybe not parents so much, expect instant results from this process. A process and mindset which in reality plays out across your lifespan in a complex way. I explain this to my students but the future is hard for them to perceive but others are not and if we could overcome that problem we could solve many.

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  8. The results of heritability studies are a prickly pill to swallow. IMO it’s even worse for the stock social reform story than what you present. Most shocking is not the substantial genetic influence, but the common failure of the shared environment (family, parents, neighborhood, family income) to have much effect at all, especially when you look at adult performance. Now, it’s possible that technical issues underlying the analysis create some error here, but I don’t expect any major reversal of these results.
    How should we swallow this? I tend to suppose it’s better to act based on accurate knowledge, but we also have a strong cultural heritage of belief systems that are quite at odds with scientific truth (such as religion), and it seems that for a great many people their non factual beliefs serve them well in their adult functioning. It’s my impression that there is a strong ideology shaping dialogs within education which seeks to minimize the effect of individual differences. For example, it seems common to refer to the low achievers as “less prepared”.
    As a non-educator, I think that if believing this helps teachers to do their difficult job, then I can hardly pop their bubble. But once we start arguing what we should believe according to the consequences of the belief, then we must also recognize that those consequences are very difficult to predict. There certainly can be bad consequences of supposing that people are more malleable than they actually are. Another thing to consider is that different beliefs about human nature are likely to work better for teachers vs. parents vs. politicians.

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  9. There Is a lot of bonkers in education and has been all the time I have been working as a teacher. Black box , thinking skills, learning styles, the need for some physical activity when sitting for long hours and now mindset have all been completely bastardised. Not to mention the drive for progressive or traditional education. In my opinion the best commentators are the ones pushing for an acceptance of complexity, nuance and letting teachers get on with the job of planning, teaching and creating meaningful feedback as well as guiding and mentoring. That should be enough. As a parent as well as a teacher I regard all these things to be my role to and wanted my boys to have contact with a variety of different quality, dedicated educators with a variety of different approaches. Which is precisely what they got. As someone who has a adopted sibling and extensive experience of working with students with special needs I have deep concerns about the way students who need special provision are denied it and the limited resources teachers are being given to tackle this.

    The no excuses culture has also been used extensively against teachers who have the ability but not the time, class sizes, resources or appropriate support to teach such students successfully. But even when they do the positive outcomes they are rarely a-C grade GCSEs so are not considered of value to the system, although once again they are valued by most parents and many employers.

    Acceptance of complexity is critical. But the people getting promoted are those who can show they can tick the Ofsted boxes. The people who point out the emperor has no clothes on are treated as whistle blowers and so the whole cycle repeats itself with one fad after another. One school I know has recently conducted a 12 question growth mindset questionnaire, bonkers as I said.

    So a big push for us all to develop a genuine growth mindset rather than a simplistic version by accepting complexity, being genuinely reflective (which just won’t happen with performance pay) and accepting not all educational outcomes need to be measured are some steps which will lead to a education system of excellence. Not sure the budgets will stretch to cope though or that it is in the interests of people who want to be seen to be excellent educators. So hard to tick those boxs and create a form to show it has been done.

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  10. It’s also worth noting that the ability to work hard / persevere is also an ability which is subject to nature / nurture, so that not everyone can work as hard as everyone else (I’ve heard it said about other sports, so I’m sure that the same is true of rugby league, established stars will say that when they were 18 or whatever, some of their peers had more skill than them, but those others weren’t able to apply themselves so well, and thus they “never made it”). Just as your senior civil servants tend to be more academically gifted, they also tend to be able to make themselves work hard, so they assume that “everyone can do it”, which just isn’t true.

    Being bright, I am sure that the civil servants and pols understand that their own experience may be highly atypical, and therefore they need objective research which covers the whole population before they make any decisions on national policies. That is the way things work isn’t it!?

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  11. I’ve also noticed that high value is attached to self-marketing/confidence (which I believe has been directly related to levels of testosterone and hence masculinity) and good looks; neither of which is in a child’s control.

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  12. A refreshing view of the issue. As one of those lazy no-sweat cruising students, I could not help but smirk… I apologise in advance for bringing up not one but a whole set of anecdotes. My personal favorite was taking my Literature exam for a French baccalauréat, which I started with a 2-hour nap in the room due to the left-over alcohol and cannabis fumes of the 3 previous nights of non-stop partying, scribbling like crazy for an hour and a half then leaving the room first… I scored top of the district and became a legend for my last year in secondary school. Even as I recount it today I struggle not to feel some weird misplaced pride when clearly, there was no personal merit in this academic “prowess”. I had it so easy… that I only ended up learning the value of hard work once I actually started working, after I had dropped out of university in my last year… because I found it boring (and that making it less boring might have involved a modicum of actual studying).

    I took pride in average scores because they hadn’t involved any work and that others had to work hard to reach similar results. With hindsight, had I learnt to sweat over my studies a little sooner, I might have managed to turn university into a gratifying, challenging experience simply by raising my own expectations of what I should achieve. I ended up doing just that when I returned to university 20 years later, while juggling a full-time (and not particularly gratifying) job and two young children. Then, when I scored top of the faculty, I actually got a sense of achievement, because I had truly worked for it this time. Besides, had there been means to make school more interesting, I might also have avoided exploring other, unhealthy, ways of making life exciting during my last years at school.

    At the other end of the spectrum, my brothers who are both dyslexic, worked painstakingly at their homework and suffered through innumerable hours of holiday studying, with very little results. They both concluded that I was a “genius” and that they were simply “dumb”. I was an eagle, they were penguins. They both dropped out of secondary school with very poor results and even poorer opinions of both themselves and the school system. They have since turned out to be hugely successful in their own careers but it took a lot of creativity for them to find the highly personal paths that would fulfill their needs and bring out the best of their skills. In the process, they also gained amazing life experience and a large set of very loyal friends.

    I think the key to your article is that education traditionally focusses on a very limited set of abilities which are praised while there are other infinitely useful skills that are blatantly ignored in the curriculum. There clearly is value in hard work: I missed out on a number of amazing once-in-a-lifetime opportunities for not learning that sooner. And if I always resented while at school that we were “wasting time” rehashing concepts ad nauseam for the sake of those who could not get it first time round, I have learnt in later life that being a high-flying academic does not make you into an all-round good person, far from it. It does nothing for your mental health, your patience and your social skills and there is no necessary correlation with creativity or sensitivity either. I strongly suspect that I am mentally unbalanced; I know for a fact that I have piss-poor listening skills and love the sound of my own voice, am very conceited, entirely self-obsessed and clearly a crap friend to the very few who still put up with me. In other words, I may be a high-flyer but I cannot swim. At all. I cannot swim, nor dance, nor walk (nor a number of other things that I have yet to identify because I have been obsessed for so long with my incredible ability to fly).

    I would love to read your views on how schools could cater better for the whole spectrum of different abilities. Right now, swimmers end up with a very poor view of what they can achieve while flyers can inherit an overinflated, sometimes delusional, sense of their own abilities. Both consequences are damaging.

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    • Thanks for your comment, Ems Riddle. I think you may be unduly hard on yourself.

      In terms of what we can do, then I think I touched on that in a few of my below the line comments. Our schools need to start from the position of giving every child the opportunity to leave as an independent, adult with as much success or skill as they can develop. That may be creative, it may be in a vocational qualification, or it may be traditionally academic. But those options need to be there. That was developing pre-2010 in my view. It was imperfect, but there was a direction of travel which was looking to cater for the less academic.

      Gove threw that progress in the bin, and insisted that the only measure of success was a narrow one of exam results in academic subjects. He so lacked in empathy that he could not believe that there were any children out there who might not share his abilities or interests. It’s one of the many reasons I loathe the man.

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  13. An interesting post. Indeed one size doesn’t fit all. Every strategy has to be employed viewing the child as an individual and guiding them according to what works best for them. Theories and approaches shouldn’t be applied to everyone generally, but I think telling people they can do it helps them be more positive. Of course natural abilities and aptitudes do affect us, as you outlined, but Psychologically speaking isn’t it instilling a victim mentality in our children to say or treat them like: well you’re born with genes that define you. How does that benefit the child’s psyche? Whilst it may not be realistic or accurate to say everyone can achieve according to their effort – I think its more effective in making progress for everyone to get to their own potential. If someone wants something badly enough and works hard they usually can overcome their weakness. Psychologically, is this approach not better than labelling and branding children according to their gene pool? Perhaps its the lesser of the two evils. Although perhaps there’s a better way … I think understanding every child as an individual and communicating to them according to their own mindset is best. Humans are very diverse and cannot possibly be boxed and judges into mindset categories. I think Carol Dweck’s work is interesting and a good starting point for many to reflect.

    Thank you for sharing your viewpoint. A refreshing post!

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    • Thanks Home Truths, for your comment.

      I hope you understand I would in no way suggest ever saying to a child “You’re not very clever, and your genes mean you can’t do anything about it” (I can’t believe a teacher – or any adult – would ever say this to a child). Rather, what I want is a more sophisticated approach to education which recognises that traditional academic exam-orientated success is not the only worthwhile outcome of an education system, and that rather than forcing all children of all abilities into that curriculum, we should instead be breaking our backs trying to find ways of identifying the skills and talents which children do have, and providing excellent opportunities for progress and achievement in those areas. And within those areas, then encouraging all those characteristics of effort and resilience, by all means, but also being prepared to deal with failures in a sympathetic and understanding way. That’s not easy, but it’s a lot more useful than simply saying : “Here’s a history GCSE which you can’t really access. Do it, and when you fail, we’ll blame you for not working hard enough.” Which is where we are at present, too often.

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      • Thank you for your prompt reply. I hear you! Your viewpoint is definitely food for thought. There are many drawbacks in both schools of thought depending on what type of child we are looking at. I am not in favour of home-schooling for my own children but I can see how it can avoid many of the issues that can arise in mass farming methods of ‘conventional’ schooling. Wish there was an easy answer but I don’t think any single approach can apply across the board.

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  14. Hi. I really enjoyed reading this and agree totally that the concepts of ‘growth mindset’ and ‘talent = hard work + persistence’ have become a blind, unsubstantiated paradigm in many instances; of course, there are other major factors determining educational outcomes for a child. However, your stance did bring to mind to counter arguments, in favour of these aforementioned educational buzz-concepts:

    Firstly, we aren’t telling our children that they need to work hard, have a growth mindset, persist et cetera because we want them all to be in set 1… are we? I think we are telling them those things because we want them to be the best that THEY can be. Whatever your starting point, hard work/growth mindset/persistence will get you further than if you don’t have those things. Which leads me to my second point…

    Secondly, it is my firm belief that society and education reserve these concepts (on the grounds that I have stated in my first point) for our more able and in-the-middle children, and have a somewhat resigned acceptance of the limitations of our less able learners. I don’t think anyone’s (or i hope, anyway!) actively telling SEN-D and less able learners that they needn’t try because they won’t make it anyway… but i think how education is currently set up for these students – segregation, separate systems, lower expectations – gives the subliminal message of, basically, the same meaning. Only 50% of adults with disabilities are in paid employment, and only 6.6% of adults with learning disabilities (of working age, of course)… how can we start to improve those figures to give the disabled community an active place in society, an opportunity to make a contribution, a chance to be self sufficient? There’s such a diversity of employment available, surely we can do better than this? Of course, as ever, there are a whole load of other factors involved… but giving our students with SEN-D and our lower ability learners the message that they CAN and they SHOULD would go some way to making an improvement? Because they can. And they should. An educational experience based on internal segregation must only give the impression that they aren’t fully part of the wider community. Please take a look at my blog for a more detailed explanation of my views on this.

    So again, I agree with your general point… but i’m sticking with growth mindset, hard work and persistence… because we live in a society that ‘others’ those with disabilities and has a fixed mindset in terms of the contribution they can make. I think that this inequality must be addressed, and we can start with our learners in our schools right now. We want all of our children to be the best that they can be and we need to ensure that we are giving this message to all of our students; in our words and in our actions. What’s more, we live in a society that is not geared up to fully including those with disabilities… our lower ability learners and SEN-D students are going to need to push further, fight harder and break down those societal barriers to their success… if that’s what they want, of course.

    Nicole

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    • Thanks inco14.

      Again, I have no problem at all with trying to establish the link between effort and progress. It’s the link between effort and absolute outcomes which I disagree with – or at least the idea that all children are only more effort away from 100% outcomes.

      The world can be a cruel place, but I think the danger is that if we deny the role of differences in natural abilities, then we let in the rather cruel – and inaccurate – ideology that all could achieve the best outcomes, so the fact that they haven’t means they are undeserving of our sympathy or assistance. Whereas if we accept that some people, even many people, could not achieve the outcomes of the more fortunate majority, then there is a more compelling moral argument to provide that assistance.

      Some might suggest that I am myself over-egging the way the Growth Mindset has been interpreted in some areas. I think I am right to be fearful. I know of a school in a large academy chain which actually prints out the results of every test in every subject and pins those results, in rank order, on the walls of their corridors, so that those less able children can be publicly named and shamed on a daily basis by their peers. For all I know, this is chain policy. The argument they use is that being humiliated in such a way acts as a spur to those at the bottom to put in more effort. THAT, right there, is the hideous twisting of the growth mindset philosophy in a way which harms children. I am not using hyperbole when I say I consider this a form of child abuse. I get angry just writing this, and it doesn’t even apply to my own child !

      There are some bigger themes here, but I see the various ways in which Growth Mindset has been introduced in the UK as something of an outrider for a much crueller, harder, Americanized culture of blaming the disadvantaged and removing support for those less fortunate than the most successful. A vacuous “American Dream” slogan which justifies the denial of our responsibility to care for each other.

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      • :-o naming and shaming less able learners?!?? That’s awful! Does anyone really think that growth mindset, hardwork and persistence will get all children to 100%, A* or whatever? That isn’t what I mean at all… But I do think that those same things will enable all children to be the best that they, personally, can be; progress from starting point, and all that. I’m against anything that I feel is perpetuating the (discriminatory) students/SEN-D students dichotomy – there is no ‘children’ and ‘special needs children’… There is just CHILDREN and they have a range of abilities, needs, experiences and challenges. To employ your metaphor of telling penguins to flap harder, I’m guessing/assuming, in a world of birds that can fly? For ease I’m going to say Eagles. But our low ability learners AREN’T flightless penguins in a world of Eagles… They’re Eagles too! Okay, some Eagles are going to fly higher than others.., there’s no problem there. What we want is for each eagle to fly at the height that is their own personal best. That’s not going to happen if we keep telling our less able Eagles that they’re penguins, just because their best is, acceptably, attitudinally lower. Ditching the metaphor now, how could society function if everyone became doctors, lawyers etc? We need a diverse range of abilities – Eagles flying at a range of heights – to keep the system ticking over; doctors, cleaners, teachers, truckers, shelf stackers, lawyers, the meet and great guy at asda… All making a valid contribution. All Eagles. The biggest barrier to our low ability learners is OUR and societies low expectation of them… And perpetuating the prevailing paradigm of the ‘otherness’ of disability – telling our lowest flying Eagles that they’re penguins – is telling them that they needn’t try anyway.

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        • Leaving aside the bird metaphor stuff, we may have crossed wires here. I’m not talking about just those with if you like definable disabilities – statements of SEN, for example. I’m talking about the great bulk of the population who are not at the lucky end of the Bell Curve. Obviously, the further towards the other end of the curve you are, the harder you’ll be hit by a simplistic view of “Talent = effort + persistence”, but most people will be hit by that, including those who are not particularly low ability, but simply average.

          I agree that low expectations can be an issue. But as I’ve said, nobody is ever suggesting that children shouldn’t be taught to put their best effort in. And I’m really wary of language here, because often, “low expectations” can be used as a denial of reality : a teacher is given a mad target for a student, and after due assessment, teaching and observation of the child, notes that this student won’t be able to hit that target, the response can often be “your expectations are too low”. It’s exactly the same denial of reality in favour of “everyone can succeed with enough effort and grit” which leads to ranked lists on school walls and humiliated kids.

          Yet this response, however well-meaning, is actually harming the child in my view. Because by denying the inevitable poor outcome in the subject the child is currently taking, the school should be finding alternative provision for that child which will enable him or her to obtain value from their education, rather than forcing them to fail by insisting on a fantastical world in which all we’ve really done is replace “Talent = effort + persistence” with “Talent = effort + persistence + high expectations”. Both are bogus approaches.

          I suppose I’d put it like this : is the job of the education system to provide outcomes of genuine value, or to allow students to fail to achieve any useful outcomes, but be really positive and encouraging as they head to those failures ?

          It’s about, as ever, a nuanced approach. Yes, encourage effort and persistence. Yes, have high expectations of every student, but no, don’t adopt a policy approach which assumes that all students can and should achieve 100% if only they try hard enough, or if the teachers have high enough expectations. Neither of those things is true.

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          • Maybe crossed wires, or maybe a genuine difference of opinion. There is no ‘lucky end’ of the bell curve, in my opinion, eberyone is entitled to be the person that they are. Low ability, average, having a disability, PP/FSM… None of these things render an individual a non-valid member of society. There isnt an ‘unlucky end’ of the bell curve. All of the children are valid. High expectations, growth mindset etc will enable each individual to be the best they can be… Without comparing them to each other. Of course, education should be about gaining genuine valuable outcomes for each child (which cannot be achieved by telling some of the eagles that theyre penguins) and surely thats about personal best? I have students who are aiming for G grades, and that will be a huge, huge, huge achievement for them and it will be acknowledged as such! If other schools/individuals are not accepting of the value of genuine diversity then i cant get on board with that. And you also mentioned about alternative provision… I totally agree; true inclusion relies on each child being in the right setting for their needs. The drive for inclusion in the sense of ‘as many in mainstream as possible’ i think has been hugely damaging for some children.

            Im agreeing that talent = effort + persistance is inaccurate… Im saying that ‘BEST YOU CAN BE’ = natural ability + effort + persistance (and resilience!!!). I cant agree with any viewpoint that devalues children unless theyre academic high flyers. But equally, i cant agree with a viewpoint that states that non high flyers dont benefit from growth mindset, effort and persistance. We arentvtrying to make them all the same, we are trying to make them all the best that they personally can be; arent we?

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  15. OK; you clearly haven’t heard me talk about talent in sports (see David Epstein’s “The sports gene”) or the fact that IQ at age 11 predicts 80% of the variation in GCSE grades five years later. Of course there are innate differences between students that are relatively hard to change. IQ definitely has a genetic component (see the links to the Robert Plomin research I posted a few months ago). The point is that whatever the immutable features with which one is blessed, one can make greater use of the talent one has if one has a growth mindset. There are some areas of human experience (e.g., basketball, mathematics) where having a natural talent confers huge advantages, but the importance of the growth mindset is that it focuses learners on what they can do with what they have. And as I tried to point out in my last book, Dweck’s mindset is just one of a large number of factors that determine whether students invest in protecting self-image, or use what natural gifts they have to improve. Anyone who says that talent is irrelevant, or that it is the only thing that matters, is clearly talking nonsense. Talent is just generally over-rated, and in more areas than are generally acknowledged.

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    • No, I haven’t heard you talk about any of those things, and that all sounds very sensible. I cringe when people talk about the book “Bounce” as proof that anybody can become a world champion just through effort (the only thing standing between you and A*s, Oxbridge, oodles of cash and world domination, is sweat). I don’t, however, have any problem with the message that one can get better with effort from whatever position one starts in.

      I merely, as I hope this piece and these comments make clear, think that this relatively straightforward latter message is fairly rapidly mutating into the potentially damaging and inaccurate former message, not least because it is a very useful message for politicians and journalists who prefer to imagine a world in which the ONLY determinants of outcomes are the efforts of students and teachers; not least because such a world would then excuse them from having to address the rather more complex, and potentially expensive, reality.

      I think that’s a fairly commonly held view amongst those who think about such issues. But from the incredible response I’ve had to this piece, my fears about the misuse of the growth mindset by those who prefer that imaginary world to the real one we live in, are not misplaced.

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  16. Good grief this is fantastic! As a teacher / parent of gifted and a gifted person myself, the growth mindset position as espoused in popular education circles is uncomfortable. Where talent appears to be the result of absolutely no effort at all, developing the sought after growth mindset goes against what seems to be happening completely randomly. Your commentary on this issue, and the responses, are very illuminating, and brave. Thank you.

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  17. This was brilliant.

    “The harder you work, the smarter you get” should rather be “The harder you work, the better you get”.

    In Norway we had a minister of education from 1990-95 who was a professor of pedagogy, and who later wrote a report on education for a research foundation founded by socialist workers union. In this report he took the growth-mindset position and quoted Richard E. Nisbetts book “Intelligence and how to get it. Why schools and cultures count” (New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 2009).

    Furthermore, he discredited the whole idea of general intelligence by stating:
    “What recognizes the two directions (genetic vs growth) – and their roots are old – is that their representatives ofted do not acknowledge each others findings as “science”. The applied methodes, the data gathered, the pehomena one strive to explain – everything is under continuous debate. And what each group chooses to apply is selective – one is looking for proof of what one already believe and find what suits best the paradigm one has chosen. This is not exceptional within research: One is more convinced by arguments rather than “proof”.

    No wonder the Norwegian school is most “equal” in the world, when we have very few on the lowest PISA skill level, and also very few on the highes skill level. We help the weak to achieve but they still drop out of school, as this report was ment to describe and recommend actions to counter. But we also hold back the gifted and the able, rendering Norwegian school the most equal and most mediocre at the same time.

    One is supporting the weak at the expence of the able, two groups who should never have to be put up against each other in the first place.

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